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are we that focused on the past we can not focus on the future?
'@festinagirl: But the very real issues around money laundering & fraud remain as do the unrepentant teammates in the sport - those are the issues now'
We also need to press for changes at the UCI. With the involvement of Pat McQuaid and Hein Verbrggen, the sport will never be free of doping and corruption.
It is a bit like the war - never forget for fear it will happen again.....
After the Festina scandal rocked the cycling world, came the 1999 Tour de France. The sport was now clean and we should all move forward. Christian Prudhomme called it the 'Tour of Renewal'. They needed a new clean rider to win who hadn't ridden in the previous year's fiasco.......the winner of the 1999 Tour was the answer to his prayers. Lance Armstrong. Incidentally, he is saying much the same at the press launch of the 2014 Tour route through Yorkshire - it will be different this time. Again.
Of course, we can all forget about pro cycling and just ride our bikes.
I have heard enough about LA, and all i can say is I am proud to be a cyclist and yes Lance was very wrong in what he did 🙁 but I will continue to train hard on my Trek bike infact I have three!! with my head held high. It was not Treks fault or Giro or Oakley!! I end it here
'Kathy LeMond, the wife of Tour de France champion Greg LeMond, testified under oath in 2006 that she had been told that Armstrong’s longtime corporate sponsor Nike and Thom Weisel, a banker who sponsored Armstrong’s team, had wired $500,000 to a Swiss bank that belonged to former UCI chief Hein Verbruggen to cover up a positive drug test. Nike has denied the allegation.'
http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/opinion/8209783/What-was-Nikes-role-in-Armstrongs-fraud
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2013/feb/14/nike-oscar-pistorius
The chapter has finished for me life is to short! I just wanna train hard and forget all this
Greg LeMond has said that because he was outspoken about Lance Armstrong and his doping, he was threatened in many ways, according to David Walsh, 'The Seven Deadly Sins'. One way of influencing him was through John Burke, the President of Trek. Trek terminated their business relationship with Greg LeMond when he didn't respect the 'omerta', and LeMond lost a lot of money. Although Trek no longer sponsors Lance Armstrong, he still has a share in Trek.
'At the time, Trek president John Burke told Bicycle Retailer, “Had all the stars aligned with Lance and Greg, if [LeMond] had kept a positive relationship, [the LeMond brand] would have ended up a $30 to $35 million brand." '
Now LeMond is starting again in the bike business and is asking for feedback to input into the design and marketing process!
http://greglemond.com/lemond-cycle/
http://www.bikeradar.com/news/article/trek-breaks-marketing-ties-with-lance-armstrong-35547/
http://reader.roopstigo.com/view/roopster/story/671/#/chapter/2/
So you saying I should not ride a trek bike!! It does not come with EPO drugs when you buy it.
@les1 wrote:
So you saying I should not ride a trek bike!! It does not come with EPO drugs when you buy it.
I thought you fell of 'em instead of riding 'em! 🙂
Nah, you keep riding the bikes. I'm going to keep wearing my Oakley specs ('cos they weren't cheap, and I ain't buying any others to replace 'em), and my Giro helmets!
I will keep injecting insulin as well.... 🙂
Haha that's why I have three trek bikes 😉 one in the workshop one to ride and one for when my wheel falls off 😛 you know me Ady 😆
After the Oprah interview, there is a question still unanswered about what was said in a hospital room in 1996, when Lance was ill with cancer. He refused to answer this question when asked by Oprah. Betsy Andreu says she heard Lance tell his doctor a list of performance -enhancing drugs that he had taken. She says Stephanie McIlvain heard it too, and they talked about it later many times. Stephanie said she would not lie under oath about it to Greg LeMond. In David Walsh's book, 'The Seven Deadly Sins', Betsy says this did indeed happen, Stephanie lied under oath, and she speculates that pressure was put on Stephanie because she was an employee of Oakley, and wanted to keep her job. Betsy Andreu also says that Stephanie McIlvain rang her up and threatened her. There is speculation in the press that Stephanie McIlvain may have committed perjury whilst under pressure from the Lance Armstrong team and as an employee of his sponsor, Oakley.
'The Four Corners investigation broadcast testimony taken during the SCA Promotions case, which ran between 2004 and 2006, and dealt with that insurance company’s refusal to pay out a $5 million bonus due to Armstrong when he won his sixth Tour. It argued that there was strong reason to believe that he had doped; ultimately, that became a moot point because the original contract didn’t include stipulations about having to win the race clean.
Two of those who gave their sworn testimony were Frankie and Betsy Andreu; the former was a past team-mate on the US Postal Service team, the latter was his wife. Both said under oath that Armstrong had admitted in a hospital room in 1996 that he had used a mixture of banned products in his early career, including EPO and growth hormone.
Another who gave sworn evidence was Stephanie McIlvain, who worked for his sponsor Oakley. The Andreus said that she was also present in the hospital room when doctors were talking to Armstrong as part of his treatment for testicular cancer. McIlvain contradicted their account under oath, saying that she never heard Armstrong talk about using banned products.
However a recording made a year earlier by triple Tour de France winner Greg LeMond was played on the programme, and there McIlvain confirmed she was present. Asked by LeMond if he would testify if a court case happened, she said she would.
“If I was subpoenaed, I would…because I am not going to lie. I was in that room, I heard it,” she told LeMond.
SCA Promotions lawyer Jeff Tillotson revealed that the clear clash in McIlvain’s evidence meant that she was accepted by both sides as being a compromised witness. “Lance Armstrong’s lawyers immediately backed off this issue and agreed in a written stipulation we presented to the panel that Stephanie McIlvain had been untruthful under oath and had told two different stories about what happened in the Indiana hospital room,” he said. '
http://twitter.com/nedboulting/status/257795467839152129/photo/1
So................has anone heard from Sherwen? No apology? No climbing down from the high horse? No-one seems to have grapsed the idea of the question!! Sherwen was wrong and must have known he was wrong................
Dave, Jim & Howard
What nothing new today ? 😆
There has been some surprise that Wiggins has given the press a strong reaction to watching the Oprah televised interview of Lance Armstrong. He didn't vocalise a strong anti Lance stance after the USADA report, or after the live steaming of the OWN broadcast itself. So why now? In particular, Jonathan Vaughters was critical because in 2009, he says Wiggins was Lance's BFF and LA was trying to persuade him to leave Vaughters' team Garmin. Some might say better late than never, because quite a few of the more impressionable fans will follow Wiggins' lead in forming their own opinion,and get off the fence.
Wiggins: 'you lying bastard'!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2013/jan/24/bradley-wiggins-lance-armstrong
UCI press officer changes job after 15 years, Pat McQuaid 'too busy' for Olympic duties, Verbruggen ties himself in knots, and WADA, the IOC and the USADA start to put the pressure on. The UCI IC in asking for a 'truth and reconciliation' process put the UCI in a lose-lose situation
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2013/jan/24/uci-lance-armstrong-truth-reconciliation
